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Post by nopersonality on Jul 4, 2010 15:56:27 GMT -5
Glad to see that pile of shit The Matrix take a hike.
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Post by tylerdurden on Jul 4, 2010 18:12:08 GMT -5
The Matrix is my number 11 movie. And it's not a pile of shit.
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Post by nopersonality on Jul 5, 2010 8:12:26 GMT -5
It most certainly is - it's one of the worst... things I've ever seen in my entire life. I don't know what people who like that movie have to smoke beforehand to get to a place where they could concievably find it anything but painful, irritating, mindless, stupid drivel, but frig- it must be some powerful stuff! I might have to try some some time.
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Post by StevePulaski on Jul 5, 2010 8:24:24 GMT -5
It most certainly is - it's one of the worst... things I've ever seen in my entire life. I don't know what people who like that movie have to smoke beforehand to get to a place where they could concievably find it anything but painful, irritating, mindless, stupid drivel, but frig- it must be some powerful stuff! I might have to try some some time. Haha, that movie is overrated.
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Post by nopersonality on Jul 5, 2010 8:30:46 GMT -5
To put it mildly.
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Post by tylerdurden on Jul 5, 2010 16:43:08 GMT -5
The Matrix is an amazing film! The story is genius, the acting is... good, the action is incredible, damn, now I wanna watch it!
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Post by nopersonality on Jul 5, 2010 17:14:42 GMT -5
The Matrix is a godawful... thing. The story is lame, the acting is... who cares(?), the action is retarded, damn, now I wanna put to-death everyone who had anything to do with the making of it!
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Post by tylerdurden on Jul 5, 2010 17:18:46 GMT -5
the story isn't lame. It's an interesting, original view of the future. The acting is admittedly average. The action is incredible, not "retarded." The lobby shootout is one of the greatest action scenes ever filmed!
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Post by nopersonality on Jul 5, 2010 17:39:18 GMT -5
3 words, 3 letters: C G I.
The acting is below average.
The dialogue sucks. There is no story without dialogue, unless it's a silent film. It may have ambitions to be something more, but it caves in to action film cliches. Not just because that's what it thinks it has to do to get a theatrical release - no, they seem to be havin' a grand old time selling whatever worth they had off to The Action Factory. Including scenes with Twister, Men in Black, and Armageddon stock supporting character-stereotypes, one-liners, and Cool Guy posturing.
I shut the... thing off mid-way. It was that bad. I have only ever done that 2 or 3 other times in my entire life. It was actually killing my brain cells. It was a waste of time. And it was painful, not entertaining or rewarding in the slightest.
It is still one of the worst things I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through. It's bad. There is no doubt, question about it, or re-consideration possible. Other people may like it because it's a bad, dumb, fast action film. But it is in fact; awful. Terrible. Garbage. For anyone else.
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Post by tylerdurden on Jul 5, 2010 18:03:14 GMT -5
It's good there is no doubt about it. People do like it because it's an intelligent, creative, dark, and action packed vision of the future. The dialogue is well written and clever. I don't understand why you don't like it, and assume everyone else hates it. The fact of the matter is that it's one of the greatest sci fi films of all time. The way you talk about it is just like how Steve talks about the Dark Knight. You talk about it like everyone disliked it, which is wrong.
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Post by tylerdurden on Jul 5, 2010 20:00:44 GMT -5
top 10 Sci Fi films 1. Aliens 2. Star Wars The Empire Strikes Back 3. Donnie Darko 4. The Matirx 5. Blade Runner 6. Star Wars A New Hope 7. Alien 8. Terminator 2 9. Star Wars Return of the Jedi 10. The Terminator
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Post by tylerdurden on Jul 5, 2010 20:20:56 GMT -5
top 10 TV shows 1. The Wire 2. Arrested Development 3. The Simpsons 4. The Powerpuff Girls 5. Mr Show 6. Nip/Tuck 7. Dexter 8. South Park 9. The Tick (cartoon) 10. The Sopranos
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Post by nopersonality on Jul 5, 2010 21:03:21 GMT -5
It's good there is no doubt about it. People do like it because it's an intelligent, creative, dark, and action packed vision of the future. The dialogue is well written and clever. I don't understand why you don't like it, and assume everyone else hates it. The fact of the matter is that it's one of the greatest sci fi films of all time. The way you talk about it is just like how Steve talks about the Dark Knight. You talk about it like everyone disliked it, which is wrong. If that's how I came across, let me reassure you... That is not the case at all. I think most people are well-meaning and deep-down: caring, but ignorant, idiotic sheep. I'm sure the majority liked that worthless pile of cinematic fecal matter. Because it takes an ignorant majority to make movies like Alvin and the Chipmunks 2007 successful enough to spawn a fucking Squeakquel. Turn back the clock to the 90's and the same thing applies but with Michael Bay's evil shitfest Armageddon, a mega blockbuster. It takes a nation full of mostly idiots to make a movie that insultingly bad such a hit. And more than a decade later, things haven't changed (look at Saw, House, N.C.I.S., the horror remakes, the flood of truly bad romantic comedies, Larry the Cable Guy, the Aaron Seltzer and Jason Friedberg movies, Fox News, Sarah Palin). Our culture IS idiocy. And we love dumb action movies. Which are, by definition: dumb. The action genre is the dumbest genre of film that has ever been. In fact, if one of us is trying to make a statement about all people, it's you saying all people liked it.
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Post by tylerdurden on Jul 5, 2010 22:40:13 GMT -5
The Matrix is not a dumb action movie. it's the opposite in fact. The major action scenes don't happen until the end of the movie. We only get a little, tantalizing taste with the opening action when Trinity runs from the police. The movie has philosophy and big ideas in it, that the Armageddon audience wouldn't understand. The Matrix wasn't a huge commercial hit, it was successful, but most of the money went to the Phantom Menace, but all of the praise went to the Matrix. It's legacy still lives on, unlike a typical mindless blockbuster.
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Post by nopersonality on Jul 5, 2010 23:39:29 GMT -5
3 words, 3 letters: C G I. The dialogue sucks. There is no story without dialogue, unless it's a silent film. It may have ambitions to be something more, but it caves in to action film cliches.
I know, I saw the movie. If there had been a really interesting story, I would have picked up on it. And deny it all you want, but they did go action all the way through and they enjoyed being an action movie.
Including scenes with Twister, Men in Black, and Armageddon stock supporting character-stereotypes, one-liners, and Cool Guy posturing. I shut the... thing off mid-way. It was that bad. I have only ever done that 2 or 3 other times in my entire life. It was actually killing my brain cells. It was a waste of time. And it was painful, not entertaining or rewarding in the slightest. It is still one of the worst things I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through.
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