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Post by nopersonality on Oct 19, 2009 15:49:05 GMT -5
No it wasn't. It was a piece of shit. The Fly remake is the best remake of all time.
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Post by dilodillondil on Oct 19, 2009 15:51:43 GMT -5
Fuck you no it was not.
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Post by nopersonality on Oct 19, 2009 16:01:25 GMT -5
Yes it was. Piece of shit. Besides, it makes no sense for people to say any of the remakes I listed are that much worse than TCM '03. They all suck. List one thing about TCM '03 that makes it better than any of those other remakes. |
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Post by dilodillondil on Oct 19, 2009 16:03:20 GMT -5
Fuck you everbody fuckin likes it fuckin shit.
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Post by nopersonality on Oct 19, 2009 16:11:49 GMT -5
Fuck you everbody fuckin likes it fuckin shit. "Everybody likes it"? You know something, back a long time ago- "Everybody" thought the world was flat and that if we tried to sail around the world, we'd fall off and die a horrible death. Who cares what someone tells us "everybody" thinks or likes? Opinions change. |
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Post by briggs on Oct 19, 2009 21:38:01 GMT -5
I can understand all the others (I sure as hell don't agree with a lot), but what was so bad about this? |
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Post by nopersonality on Oct 20, 2009 3:00:16 GMT -5
The CGI, Jeffrey Combs' character, the humor wasn't funny, bad writing, bad plot / narrative, stupid.
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Post by StevePulaski on Oct 20, 2009 5:58:05 GMT -5
8. Children of the Corn: Revelation Actually, I thought that was one of the better movies of that series.  Anyway, me: 1. Anything Michael Bay is associated with! 2. The Blair Witch Project 3. Cannibal Holocaust 4. Saw 5. Epic Movie 6. I Spit on Your Grave 7. The New York Ripper 8. The Frighteners 9. Freddy vs. Jason 10. Tie: all the modern remakes (ESPECIALLY: Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Dawn of the Dead, The Hills Have Eyes, Halloween, Last House on the Left) I agree with you on Epic Movie and Cannibal Holocaust and Anything Michael Bay is associated with. But why Freddy vs Jason and I Spit on Your Grave. Those movies be illin. |
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Post by briggs on Oct 20, 2009 8:59:50 GMT -5
The CGI, Jeffrey Combs' character, the humor wasn't funny, bad writing, bad plot / narrative, stupid. Well in it's defense the CGI wasn't meant to be all that realisitic (Though it's actually better than a lot of CGI)... The plot was pretty damn creative to me (Real psychic working as a fake one?), writing was average at the worst, and where was the problem with the structure (If that's what you meant by narrative)? And just outright "stupid"? Come on, it's one of the much more creative horror-comedies out there IMO |
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Post by patface1979 on Oct 20, 2009 15:30:25 GMT -5
In the Halloween (Remake)
Micheal looks like my friends roomate!
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Post by nopersonality on Oct 21, 2009 7:53:39 GMT -5
The CGI, Jeffrey Combs' character, the humor wasn't funny, bad writing, bad plot / narrative, stupid. Well in it's defense the CGI wasn't meant to be all that realisitic (Though it's actually better than a lot of CGI)... The plot was pretty damn creative to me (Real psychic working as a fake one?), writing was average at the worst, and where was the problem with the structure (If that's what you meant by narrative)? And just outright "stupid"? Come on, it's one of the much more creative horror-comedies out there IMO To me, there is no scale of the effectiveness of CGI. Either you notice it and it bothers you, or it doesn't bother you. It bothered me. A lot. It almost always does, in any movie. I'll tell you the reason why - because it happens at the beginning of the movie, there's a person running in utter terror. You don't know who they are, you don't know what's going on, you don't know whether you're supposed to take it seriously or not... and then you see water where the walls should be, a bad video-game / cartoon graphic in the water-"walls" is chasing a human being who is really scared. These are images that do not match up together. At all. And it undermines any effectiveness that that scene might have. And it's just not a failed scene, it's an aggravating scene. Not an easily forgotten or overlooked one. And it taints a person's opinion of the rest of the movie. A plot can be IDEAS-creative all it wants to, but it needs to be a well-executed idea. This movie is not a well-executed idea. And the movie goes back and forth tonally. It's rated-R but wants to switch back and forth between being Oliver Stone's Natural Born Killers to Barry Sonnenfeld's Men in Black. The "humor" in this movie is so childish, I literally began to feel like the director was some retarded schoolkid unable to stop laughing at his best friend farting, even days after the friend farted. The characters are stupid and obnoxious. The dialogue is full of awful one-liners (especially from the nerd and black ghosts!!) - this movie's whole sense of humor is completely dumbed-down. And once you meet that bitch newspaper woman- an oppressive predictability sets in. It sets a pattern of antagonistic characters: the client with the flying babies, Trini Alvarado's boyfriend, the ghost Army Commander, Jeffrey Combs' character; and all of those people are intended to be used in a farce-capacity to basically piss the audience off. They represent, together, the only serious facet to the movie. And their seriousness fucks with the humor. Big-time! This movie can't go back and forth between juvenile humor and harsh characters who drive me crazy. It doesn't mix into an effective whole. Too much of this movie was designed for kids. It's not a smart movie. I agree with you on Epic Movie and Cannibal Holocaust and Anything Michael Bay is associated with. But why Freddy vs Jason and I Spit on Your Grave. Those movies be illin. No they most certainly are not. I tore both of them apart on either this board or DON & MURPH. I'm too lazy to look up what I've said. But the long & short of it is - I'm a smart person and those movies were made for dumb people. They're not fun or interesting or well-made. They're offensive and insulting to my intelligence. |
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Post by StevePulaski on Oct 21, 2009 7:53:43 GMT -5
Insulting to your intelligence?
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Post by nopersonality on Oct 21, 2009 8:07:24 GMT -5
Insulting to your intelligence? Yes. There is no entertainment value in watching a woman being raped for as long as we were forced to watch her being raped in Spit. There's also no intellectual or social reason for it. Everyone understands that rape is bad. We don't need to sit there and watch it like that. The movie might have been better if it had just been all about her getting revenge. If it started with the first victim and only did short flashbacks of her being raped in-between. It's pretentious to make us watch rape, assuming we're so stupid that we can't imagine what it feels like. No movie is going to actually make us experience rape. The guy making Spit actually thinks he can make us feel it. Looking at it is not the same thing as going through it. And as for FvJ... It takes all the atmosphere and everything scary from the Nightmare on Elm Street and Friday the 13th franchises and turns them into bad CGI puns and long, stupid action scenes. I'm a horror fan. I don't appreciate being sold a movie that is supposed to be horror and turns out to be a bullshit professional wrestling match. If I want wrestling, I'll watch it on TV! If I want to watch an action movie, I will. FvJ totally raped all that was fun and good about the other series. The beginning was painful! They basically started with that great "Virtual 80's" scene in Jason X (not a great movie, but that "you wanna smoke some pot? We love pre-marital sex!!" campfire scene actually was good), then gets a new 25th-rate cheap shit version of Mrs. Voorhees that there's no way any Jason (no matter how fake or real they look) would ever believe is Betsy Palmer, then re-does Freddy Krueger's background too! Steve...you really need to watch all the Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Elm Street movies. You'll understand why this movie sucks so much. |
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Post by StevePulaski on Oct 21, 2009 8:14:18 GMT -5
I think I see what you are saying by the "Rape" concept. We know it's bad, but we dont need peopl to emphasize that it's bad. How long was the rape scene in Spit?
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Post by nopersonality on Oct 21, 2009 8:19:10 GMT -5
I think I see what you are saying by the "Rape" concept. We know it's bad, but we dont need peopl to emphasize that it's bad. How long was the rape scene in Spit? Well, you saw the movie right? It was at least 20 minutes. And yeah, even that is way too long. As for FvJ, I don't want you to think I'm saying you can't enjoy it. You're a lot younger than I am and you're going to like stuff I fucking can't stand. |
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