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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2012 14:49:58 GMT -5
Just a little vid I whipped up:
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Post by StevePulaski on Mar 13, 2012 16:26:17 GMT -5
Not bad, even though I couldn't care less about Madonna. Somehow, she has drifted from being a cultural icon to an indulgent hack who feels she's still relevant. There's nothing I can't stand more than a musician who can't take the hint that they have worn out their welcome. I used to be oblivious to it, but that's how I feel about Soulja Boy now. He had his hit, he made a lot of money, but somehow, he still wants to overstay his welcome. That's what I think the problem in music is now. Too many people can't take the hint that they're overstaying their welcome and want to hang on to the belief that they still matter. The best part about the seventies and eighties was singers who got famous off of one hit (Tommy Tutone - "867-5309 (Jenny)," a fantastic song) knew they were one hit wonders and didn't try to milk it. The music industry, now, is filled with commercialized, generic pop songs that all sound the same and have no morals, message, or meaning except for "party the night away."
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Post by patface1979 on Mar 13, 2012 21:16:52 GMT -5
I love Madonna shes a great singer I also like Lady Gaga too. I would love if someone makes tribute of her too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2012 12:09:39 GMT -5
I think Madonna is an important creative force more than a singer people will never forget. She was a dancer first. A drummer second. A vocalist last (sorry, make that actress last). Her talent is in knowing music well and producing it in a certain team format. She knows a hit when she finds it. I don't know to what lengths she wrote her own material. Although... who else could have written her soul-searching stuff on Ray of Light, Music, American Life BUT her? But, whether she's a package or not, she has been responsible for some of the most revolutionary, brave, intelligent, ballsy, trend-setting music EVER. Now... Lady Gaga? That's a singer! She's a singer first. Not bad, even though I couldn't care less about Madonna. Somehow, she has drifted from being a cultural icon to an indulgent hack who feels she's still relevant. There's nothing I can't stand more than a musician who can't take the hint that they have worn out their welcome. I used to be oblivious to it, but that's how I feel about Soulja Boy now. He had his hit, he made a lot of money, but somehow, he still wants to overstay his welcome. That's what I think the problem in music is now. Too many people can't take the hint that they're overstaying their welcome and want to hang on to the belief that they still matter. The best part about the seventies and eighties was singers who got famous off of one hit (Tommy Tutone - "867-5309 (Jenny)," a fantastic song) knew they were one hit wonders and didn't try to milk it. The music industry, now, is filled with commercialized, generic pop songs that all sound the same and have no morals, message, or meaning except for "party the night away." Um... HARSH! Madonna's music right now isn't about the music scene nor is it about the same messages every other artist is promoting. Her new album is titled MDNA- which of course means it's about her own career and her latest single (the one to follow "Gimme All Your Luvin") is a callback to her previous album- Confessions on a Dancefloor. Music isn't as cut and dry as who is and isn't relevant. Though I will agree Madonna's last album was extremely poor and this one isn't shaping up to be much better. But if that lowers your opinion of her as an artist, I'm kinda ashamed to know you. Present flaws don't change the quality of past work. And, I'm sorry but is there really a message in Hank Williams III's music or is it just... I dunno...: MUSIC? I'd rather listen to Chris Brown than Madonna. I don't even know who you are (no offense intended, actually), so I have no idea what statement you're trying to make with that but everyone knows Madonna is one of the most important pioneers in pop music and Chris Brown was a glorified boy-bander given a career by Rihanna and Busta Rhymes. I don't know what kind of image you're trying to push with a hatred of pop music, but you might as well be asking me to consider you dirt. Not a good first impression.
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Post by StevePulaski on Mar 14, 2012 16:56:02 GMT -5
Not bad, even though I couldn't care less about Madonna. Somehow, she has drifted from being a cultural icon to an indulgent hack who feels she's still relevant. There's nothing I can't stand more than a musician who can't take the hint that they have worn out their welcome. I used to be oblivious to it, but that's how I feel about Soulja Boy now. He had his hit, he made a lot of money, but somehow, he still wants to overstay his welcome. That's what I think the problem in music is now. Too many people can't take the hint that they're overstaying their welcome and want to hang on to the belief that they still matter. The best part about the seventies and eighties was singers who got famous off of one hit (Tommy Tutone - "867-5309 (Jenny)," a fantastic song) knew they were one hit wonders and didn't try to milk it. The music industry, now, is filled with commercialized, generic pop songs that all sound the same and have no morals, message, or meaning except for "party the night away." Um... HARSH! Madonna's music right now isn't about the music scene nor is it about the same messages every other artist is promoting. Her new album is titled MDNA- which of course means it's about her own career and her latest single (the one to follow "Gimme All Your Luvin") is a callback to her previous album- Confessions on a Dancefloor. Music isn't as cut and dry as who is and isn't relevant. Though I will agree Madonna's last album was extremely poor and this one isn't shaping up to be much better. But if that lowers your opinion of her as an artist, I'm kinda ashamed to know you. Present flaws don't change the quality of past work. And, I'm sorry but is there really a message in Hank Williams III's music or is it just... I dunno...: MUSIC? Some Hank III songs have a message, but not all. Some are just about having fun and raising hell. Others, like "I Wish I Knew" are more sentimental and earnest. Pop music has virtually no message. I swear, I listened to almost the entire Ke$ha album and couldn't find reason or purpose. It's just fun, fun, fun, rarely any consequences, fun, fun, fun. As far as Madonna's past work, it's pretty good. Very good, some of it. But now, she's washed up. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but that's a pretty accurate statement. I remember listening to one of her latest album's, Hard Candy, I believe, and found it to almost be inherently awful. What happened? She was creative, fun, and original in the eighties. Now she's lost and wandering through the woods of musical odds and ends.
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Post by StevePulaski on Mar 14, 2012 20:14:22 GMT -5
FYI, I am not a fan of pop music. But then again, I'm not a fan of music in general.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2012 15:01:39 GMT -5
Pop music has virtually no message. Well, careful now. Because I could make a list a mile long of pop songs about everything from freedom, racial harmony, sexism, gender equality, sexual equality, spirituality, bigotry, politics, drugs, war, etc, etc, etc. What you're actually doing is taking a popular misconception and saying because it is popular, that it proves a point from the narrow perspective it's looking out from. Which is pretty ridiculous. Just because Ke$ha might focus more on party culture (and she's easily matured as an artist since her debut album- I can't wait to see what she'll do next) than trying to copy Lady Gaga or turn into a giant sap (Christina Aguilera springs to mind). Honesty, it's the listener's decision to see no value in the music they hear. So, that's why I'm telling you to be careful when you take a position of "oh yeah, this stuff is pointless." It says more about you than the music. I think overall, we have a bigger heap of songs that tried to be meaningful and failed or proved to be overheated, pretentious, etc(.) - boring - and people just don't care for them. There can only be one "Man in the Mirror." As far as Madonna's past work, it's pretty good. Very good, some of it. But now, she's washed up. I'm not trying to sound harsh, but that's a pretty accurate statement. I remember listening to one of her latest album's, "Hard Candy," I believe, and found it to almost be inherently awful. What happened? She was creative, fun, and original in the eighties. Now she's lost and wandering through the woods of musical odds and ends. I believe what happened was her marriage was ending and she knew it. So, knowing she was going back on the market- she wanted to look younger and more attractive. So, she decided to hook up with Timbaland. In the studio (8 years too late). The way I look at it is Hard Candy is the missing half of American Life. Take that album's 3 weakest tracks ("Intervention," "X-Static Process," and "Easy Ride") and add on HC's 5 strongest ("Miles Away," "Give It 2 Me," "She's Not Me," "Devil Wouldn't Recognize You," and "Dance 2night")... and the album becomes on par with 2000's Music.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2012 7:44:25 GMT -5
Another Tribute:
It's a little audio clipshow but one that displays the full magnitude of her power, all her different styles, and since she only has 2 singles out on the new album, it gives a good sample of what I now admit is better material than her 2008 effort, Hard Candy. It's in fits and starts but she's still got it.
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Post by StevePulaski on Apr 19, 2012 13:39:39 GMT -5
Well done, per usual. You've overcome a few hardships to make some very worthwhile slideshows and audio compilations.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2012 8:54:43 GMT -5
Thank you. Of course, I owe it all to the subject(s). It's hard to shortchange the Queen of Pop.
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Post by patface1979 on Apr 26, 2012 6:25:56 GMT -5
Thank you. Of course, I owe it all to the subject(s). It's hard to shortchange the Queen of Pop. I like Madonna myself she's a sex symbol I loved her 80's music and The 90's when I was a teen she soo hot grrrr! But great tribute NP to the queen of pop and to end your tribute on Vouge is only the best song. Madonna also re-invent herself every culture change that's great about she's my favorite singer I have couple of songs on vinyl and cassette thanx NP for this Thread and trip down Memory Lane! Karma for you man!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2012 20:29:59 GMT -5
YAY!
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