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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 17:31:37 GMT -5
You folks undoubtably remember Harold Camping's prediction for Judgment Day to take place on May 21st of this year and the fact that it DID NOT happened. Well now, the pipefitter is getting excited again, believing that it will come this friday. Though, this time he is a wee bit "doubtful" about it, but anticipates it nonetheless: www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/under-god/post/harold-camping-world-probably-to-end-oct-21-2011/2011/10/05/gIQAmxMMuL_blog.htmlCamping isn't alone for predicting an eschatological event for this month, for Swedish Mayanist Carl Johan Calleman predicts that the ancient Mayan Long Count Calendar will complete its cycle on October 28th of this year. This contradicts what most Mayanists, anthropologists, and historians claims of it ending on December 21st, 2012 (which is a proven fact). However, Calleman believes that the 28th will not mark the end of the world, but an acension of human consciousness. Despite that, there is no doubt that people who follow him are going to misinterpret what he teaches, and think it will mark the end of the world (metaphysics is not an easy concept for the human mind to grasp). www.prweb.com/releases/2011/10/prweb8867419.htmwww.calleman.com/Both of those jerk-offs are totally wrong! Camping is a delusional old man in serious need of help. He needs to realize that Jesus said several times in the Bible that no one will no when Judgment Day will come except for God. As for Calleman, anyone who has studied vigorously the Mayan calendar and its history will tell you that Calleman's logic is deeply flawed. The Great Mayan Cycle will not be complete until 12/21/12, that is a fact, and as such no spiritual awakening will take place on the 28th. But watch, as soon as both of these upcoming fridays pass, both Camping and Calleman are going to say "I miscalculated" and jump aboard the 2012 bandwagon. I am looking forward to that!  |
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Post by StevePulaski on Oct 18, 2011 17:38:18 GMT -5
What kills me is that the idiot was already wrong once, and he expects people to believe him now? If you pulled BS like this back in the early days, and were wrong, you'd be stoned (beat with rocks) to death. Whatever, it better not end Friday. Paranormal Activity 3 comes out. And it better not end until I read Kevin Smith's new book, and watch his two new Dvds.
Once I'm done with those four life accomplishments - the world can end whenever the hell it wants.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 21:44:00 GMT -5
What kills me is that the idiot was already wrong once, and he expects people to believe him now? If you pulled BS like this back in the early days, and were wrong, you'd be stoned (beat with rocks) to death. Whatever, it better not end Friday. Paranormal Activity 3 comes out. And it better not end until I read Kevin Smith's new book, and watch his two new Dvds. Once I'm done with those four life accomplishments - the world can end whenever the hell it wants. Don't worry, I guarantee that both Camping and Calleman are wrong about their dates. As for 12/21/12 marking some major global event, aside from the reactions of the Long Count completing its Great Cycle, that is another story. |
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Post by Handsome Devil on Oct 18, 2011 22:46:57 GMT -5
The world will end August 13th, 2034.
There. That is as credible as this Mayan bullshit, if not more so. I have a computer, running water, and don't sacrifice people to some sun god.
To play Devil's advocate here, I believe "Judgement Day" refers to the separation of the good from the evil. Basically, people who believe in God and those who don't. The actual apocalypse is not supposed to happen until months later, where the people who were judged good will ascend to heaven and those who were deemed evil will be killed by demons riding on horses.
BTW: This is not an H.P. Lovecraft story.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2011 22:57:29 GMT -5
The world will end August 13th, 2034. There. That is as credible as this Mayan bullshit, if not more so. I have a computer, running water, and don't sacrifice people to some sun god. To play Devil's advocate here, I believe "Judgement Day" refers to the separation of the good from the evil. Basically, people who believe in God and those who don't. The actual apocalypse is not supposed to happen until months later, where the people who were judged good will ascend to heaven and those who were deemed evil will be killed by demons riding on horses. Why did you pick that date? Anyway, there is a lot of bullshit surrounding the Mayan Long Count Calendar, and that has unfortunately caused people to misunderstand the Maya. They were a deeply spiritual people and they were not big on sacrificing people to a sun god, unlike the Aztecs. How could it be, Tyler? It is clearly more Biblical than it is Lovecraftian. |
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Post by Handsome Devil on Oct 19, 2011 15:12:48 GMT -5
The world will end August 13th, 2034. There. That is as credible as this Mayan bullshit, if not more so. I have a computer, running water, and don't sacrifice people to some sun god. To play Devil's advocate here, I believe "Judgement Day" refers to the separation of the good from the evil. Basically, people who believe in God and those who don't. The actual apocalypse is not supposed to happen until months later, where the people who were judged good will ascend to heaven and those who were deemed evil will be killed by demons riding on horses. Why did you pick that date? Anyway, there is a lot of bullshit surrounding the Mayan Long Count Calendar, and that has unfortunately caused people to misunderstand the Maya. They were a deeply spiritual people and they were not big on sacrificing people to a sun god, unlike the Aztecs. Is "deeply spiritual" secret code for "not scientific which means their theories don't matter"? That was just the first date that popped into my mind. BTW: This is not an H.P. Lovecraft story. How could it be, Tyler? It is clearly more Biblical than it is Lovecraftian. Just the first author that popped into my head. Of course it's biblical; it's from the Bible. But saying "This not a Bible story" is wrong, and also not funny. Also, Harold's 90 years old so nothing he says regarding modern anything matters. |
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Post by StevePulaski on Oct 19, 2011 16:15:24 GMT -5
The world will end August 13th, 2034. There. That is as credible as this Mayan bullshit, if not more so. I have a computer, running water, and don't sacrifice people to some sun god. To play Devil's advocate here, I believe "Judgement Day" refers to the separation of the good from the evil. Basically, people who believe in God and those who don't. The actual apocalypse is not supposed to happen until months later, where the people who were judged good will ascend to heaven and those who were deemed evil will be killed by demons riding on horses. Why did you pick that date? I'm pretty sure he just picked it randomly... Anyway, that's the twenty-fifth anniversary of my forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2011 16:32:29 GMT -5
Why did you pick that date? Anyway, there is a lot of bullshit surrounding the Mayan Long Count Calendar, and that has unfortunately caused people to misunderstand the Maya. They were a deeply spiritual people and they were not big on sacrificing people to a sun god, unlike the Aztecs. Is "deeply spiritual" secret code for "not scientific which means their theories don't matter"? That was just the first date that popped into my mind. I see, but "deeply spiritual" means that they had big philosophical insight on life, nature, and the universe. Much like most, if not all, Native American people had such insights before the arrival of Europeans. The Maya may have not been scientific like those in post-Renaissance Europe, but their skills in mathematics and observing the heavens is incredible. Not to mention they had a great sense of craftmanship and architecture, as evidence shows by their pyramids and crystal skulls. There is a lot more I can say about them, but it would take a long time to get it all down.  Why did you pick that date? I'm pretty sure he just picked it randomly... Anyway, that's the twenty-fifth anniversary of my forum. Cool! ;D  |
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Post by nopersonality on Oct 19, 2011 17:32:39 GMT -5
You're obsessed with this, Jib. Seek... something else.  |
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Post by Handsome Devil on Oct 19, 2011 19:31:17 GMT -5
Is "deeply spiritual" secret code for "not scientific which means their theories don't matter"? That was just the first date that popped into my mind. I see, but "deeply spiritual" means that they had big philosophical insight on life, nature, and the universe. Much like most, if not all, Native American people had such insights before the arrival of Europeans. The Maya may have not been scientific like those in post-Renaissance Europe, but their skills in mathematics and observing the heavens is incredible. Not to mention they had a great sense of craftmanship and architecture, as evidence shows by their pyramids and crystal skulls. There is a lot more I can say about them, but it would take a long time to get it all down. The Egyptians were also great buildings, they were pioneers in language, but they also believed in a bunch of gods and thought it was a good idea to have a kid rule an empire. Scientific theory from the 80's could be considered outdated. The 1980's that is. The further back you go, the less credible it is. The Mayans existed before a time where people thought you could cure a cold by replacing your blood with that of a goat. The Mayans did not reach that level of technology, yet we believe they predicted the end of the world. If you want to bust out some modern scientific theory that could back up the 2012 frau- I mean "claim", then I'll listen, but enough of this Mayan bullshit. |
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Post by StevePulaski on Oct 19, 2011 20:02:03 GMT -5
You're obsessed with this, Jib. Seek... something else. Exactly. This end of the world BS is nothing to wrap your end around. Same with the Mayan civilization. It's all crap, dude. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2011 23:55:23 GMT -5
Okay guys, I am really sick and tired of how each and every one of you takes almost every little thing I say very seriously!  Hawk was the only one who did not take everything seriously, which is why I wish he had never left this board. He KNEW when someone was being serious and when they were not, and I wish you guys could be like that. Of course, Pat does not take me seriously all time either, but only when it is necessary. Thank you, Pat! In respons to your guys' comments, I have written the pilot installment of Totally Bogus. It is also the longest post to ever be posted on this very forum (protected by the Right of Freedom of Speech: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech ) It will answer a lot of questions you've been having about 2012 and more. Warning: Do not read if you are easily offended. Reader discretion is advised.stevethemovieman.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=sjtb&thread=2224 |
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Post by nopersonality on Nov 8, 2011 13:26:22 GMT -5
You mean do not read... at all (the section is password coded). Other than that, I have no idea what you're talking about. It just seems to me you have a strange interest in this "2012" thing and you talk about it a lot. ... That's all. You still should get a better fascination / hobby, though.  |
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Post by StevePulaski on Nov 8, 2011 17:11:24 GMT -5
He's waiting for me to give the OK and unlock it. We're not trying to hurt your feelings, we just think the obsession may be, unhealthy? That may be the word. As long as you don't believe in it, that's perfectly fine. But there's no sense in wrapping your head around something entirely fictitious. If you like it, forget what we think. You don't need to find a better hobby, but maybe, just once in a while remind us you don't believe in what you're studying. I'll be reading your novel of a thread soon. Congratulations on making the longest post on the board. Plus 1k karma.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2011 21:22:26 GMT -5
You mean do not read... at all (the section is password coded). Other than that, I have no idea what you're talking about. It just seems to me you have a strange interest in this "2012" thing and you talk about it a lot. ... That's all. You still should get a better fascination / hobby, though. Sorry about that, NP, but like Steve said, I wanted him to approve of it before the public can read it. Anyway, yeah, it seems that I have become obsessed with the topic. Having Asperger's, I cannot help but get obsessed with certain topics from time to time. I mainly had that in my mindset because I see the world as a sick place that needs to be " corrected." Sort of a like a naughty child who needs a serious spanking (even though I am strongly against corporal punishment). But yeah, for a long ass time I was saying that I wasn't going to get sucked into the hype, and yet I sorta did. I say a lot more on TB (which is no longer password encoded), but I just thought I'd be brief on this thread. You are right, I do need to find a better fascination/hobby. I plan to try going back to college this winter, but I swear I have been struggling with post high school academia for years and I have not been getting anywhere far. But I'll keep trying. Aside from academia, I'll look into other things as well to occupy my attention. He's waiting for me to give the OK and unlock it. We're not trying to hurt your feelings, we just think the obsession maybe, unhealthy? That may be the word. As long as you don't believe in it, that's perfectly fine. But there's no sense in wrapping your head around something entirely fictitious. If you like it, forget what we think. You don't need to find a better hobby, but maybe, just once in a while remind us you don't believe in what you're studying. I'll be reading your novel of a thread soon. Congratulations on making the longest post on the board. Plus 1k karma. I know you guys are not trying to hurt my feelings or even be mean whatsoever, but I have a passion for the Maya and I wish to designate them from all of that 2012 bullshit. You guys are apparently ignorant about that civilization, especially since you keep thinking that they really did predict the end of the world (which they did NOT). I will admit there are quite a few ancient civs I am ignorant about, but I would not be so ignorant about them if I were to study more about them. Yes, obsessions can be unhealthy, to the point where one will need to see a doctor. But I am trying to get it under control, I really am. No, I do not believe in any of that 2012 bullshit. I was just trying to have some fun with it, and I am not having fun anymore. So I'll cut it out for as long as I can. I'll continue studying the phenomenon, just so I'll have more content to prove why it is all false. Just like I'll continue reading the Bible (I'm currently on 2 Samuel) to help back up my stance as an atheist (a fact that I am no longer denying). Thank you very much, Steve, for the congrats and 1k karma!  ;D |
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Hawk was the only one who did not take everything seriously, which is why I wish he had never left this board. He KNEW when someone was being serious and when they were not, and I wish you guys could be like that. Of course, Pat does not take me seriously all time either, but only when it is necessary. Thank you, Pat!