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Post by Handsome Devil on Aug 30, 2010 6:54:30 GMT -5
What do you think is the year that was packed with the best movies? In my mind, 1999 is unbeatable:
American Beauty
The Matrix
Fight Club
The Sixth Sense
Toy Story 2
The Iron Giant
Office Space
Being John Malkovich
The Green Mile
American Pie
The Boondock Saints
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Post by StevePulaski on Aug 30, 2010 16:26:25 GMT -5
1999 had more serious films, but some of the ones you listed were great like Toy Story 2. American Pie, and The Green Mile. But a lot of those are overrated too.
I think its the not the year, but the decade of the 80s had a lot of great hits that I liked. I cant just pick one year like you can because you like a lot of mainstream, blockbusting, cliche favorites that everyone puts on their favorites list. I have a very odd, peculiar sense so mine are very different. For the 80s though, heres my favorites.
License to Drive
Friday the 13th
Sixteen Candles
The Breakfast Club
National Lampoon's Vacation
The Lost Boys
Ferris Bueller's Day Off
UHF
Ghostbusters
Just to name a few...
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Post by Handsome Devil on Aug 30, 2010 18:22:25 GMT -5
What ones did I list would you call overrated?
And I don't know if I'd call the Boondocks Saints a "blockbusting" movie. And Breakfast Club, Ferris Bueller, and Ghostbusters aren't mainstream, cliche favorites? I've got no problem with those movies being on your favorites list, i'm just saying, kind of hypocritical.
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Post by nopersonality on Aug 31, 2010 6:37:10 GMT -5
Good question. I ran into some people on YouTube saying 1994 was the best year for movies. But, I don't know. Like with many other things, I have to take a split, compromised, or multi-branching position as a final answer. To try and cover as many bases as I can...
Since I'm a huge horror guy, I'm sort of required to mention 1968. Which is probably the most ground-breaking year for horror in the history of cinema, what with Rosemary's Baby and Night of the Living Dead. Strangely enough, the color film among those 2 signaled the end of the classic era and the black-and-white film was the start of the edgy-70's trends. Go fig.
Also a huge Disney guy, so I have to mention 1937, the year of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Without that year, there'd be no Disney of the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, etc(.) and the many remarkable achievements that go with it.
As for all the other genres... 1992 was a really important year for comedy. My Cousin Vinny, Wayne's World, and Sister Act. That year also happened to give us the ground-breaking erotic thriller (and the filmmaking team that would make one of the most historic cult films of all-time just 3 years later) Basic Instinct, as well as the fun Final Analysis. John Landis returned to horror with the masterpiece, Innocent Blood. Gregg Araki (the loudest voice in the 90's wave of gay indie filmmakers) made his best and most important film, the gay action romance, The Living End. Tim Burton's epic (at least in terms of financial success) sequel to his 1989 smash, Batman Returns (both underrated and a little overrated at the same time). Robert Zemeckis tries camp horror with the hilarious zombie bitch comedy, Death Becomes Her. Disney's Aladdin, one of the best of their usually overrated 90's offerings. The quite decent Bram Stoker's Dracula and the surprisingly not as bad as it should be Stephen King adaptation Sleepwalkers. And the very fun Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie. Some hugely important milestones in horror: perhaps the goriest film ever made: Peter Jackson's Dead Alive (aka- Braindead), the racially-charged and romantic slasher: Candyman, and the wonderfully twisted and witty Dr. Giggles.
For the classy folk, 1992 also gave us: The Player, A League of Their Own, Bad Lieutenant, Malcolm X, Scent of a Woman, Unforgiven, Howards End, Glengarry Glen Ross, A Few Good Men, El Mariachi, Strictly Ballroom, Raise the Red Lantern, The Last of the Mohicans, Husbands and Wives, Hoffa, Enchanted April, The Crying Game, Passion Fish, Hard Boiled, Chaplin, Reservoir Dogs, Indochine, Rebels of the Neon God, Belle Époque, Bob Roberts, Lesson of Darkness, Rock Hudson's Home Movies, Peter's Friends, The Waterdance, Damage, Orlando, Of Mice and Men, Radio Flyer.
Other significant films, for either cult-value, franchise fame, or star power: The Mighty Ducks, Beethoven, Far and Away, Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me, Army of Darkness, Home Alone 2: Lost in New York, The Bodyguard, A Muppet Christmas Carol, Single White Female, White Men Can't Jump, A River Runs Through It, The Hand That Rocks the Cradle, Where the Day Takes You, Deep Cover, Under Siege, Ferngully: The Last Rainforest, Bebe's Kids, The Babe, The Lawnmower Man, Class Act, Waxwork II: Lost in Time, Poison Ivy (one of the defining moments in the "actress showing she's grown up now" bad girl genre, where Drew Barrymore beats Alyssa Milano, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Brandy by more than 2 years / this trend even got so big that it rubbed off on male child actors), Evil Toons, Juice, Rock-a-Doodle, Raising Cain, Newsies (believe it or not- it has spawned a cult following), There Goes the Neighborhood (I personally remember it was a lot of fun and I'm dying to see again), and The Naked Truth (my favorite sex-comedy).
There you have it. It's subject to change, but for now my answer is 1992.
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Post by StevePulaski on Aug 31, 2010 20:30:11 GMT -5
What ones did I list would you call overrated? And I don't know if I'd call the Boondocks Saints a "blockbusting" movie. And Breakfast Club, Ferris Bueller, and Ghostbusters aren't mainstream, cliche favorites? I've got no problem with those movies being on your favorites list, i'm just saying, kind of hypocritical. You make a good point. But I dont put them on my "Favorite of favorites" list. Think about it. MORE than half of those films you put on your "Favorite Movies" list. I put those on my favorite whatever genre they fall into. I only put License to Drive and The Breakfast Club on my favorite movie list all together. You have many overrated, cliche favorites on your list. Both The Matrix and Fight Club you said were your favorites. Those are movies that are very mainstream, not that theres anything wrong with liking something mainstream. Im just saying that if it's very story heavy, released wide, and has a good story, you consider it a fave. My favorites list doesnt have too many mainstream titles, thus I like older, more quiet films. Both the ones I mentioned are probably on hundreds of people's favorite list. Though I have yet to see you create and account where The Matrix is your favorite movie. Some more that you mentioned that are overrated, but still well done are: The Sixth Sense
The Green Mile
American PieThe Six Sense was fine, but I never loved it and felt it was overpraised. The Green Mile was very overrated, yet I enjoyed it. Still got too much credit. American Pie is also on everyone's favorite list as well, not a bad movie, just nowhere close to my favorites. |
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Post by Handsome Devil on Aug 31, 2010 23:41:57 GMT -5
The Matrix is a mainstream movie, I'll give you that. But Fight Club is more of a cult film, not a mainstream movie.
And Fight Club and The Matrix are on hundreds of people's favorites list. There's a reason for that. They're both really good movies.
What movies on my 10 favorites would you call overrated? What ones have you even seen? I don't consider every "story heavy, wide release" film a favorite of mine.
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Post by nopersonality on Sept 1, 2010 2:48:13 GMT -5
Story heavy? Steve said that... ?
Most movies from the 90's and up aren't story heavy. Dirk - have you seen Welcome to the Dollhouse?
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Post by Handsome Devil on Sept 1, 2010 3:34:27 GMT -5
Story heavy? Steve said that... ? Most movies from the 90's and up aren't story heavy. Dirk - have you seen Welcome to the Dollhouse? Yes he said that, and no I haven't seen Welcome to the Dollhouse. Why do you ask, should I check it out? |
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Post by StevePulaski on Sept 1, 2010 6:52:10 GMT -5
Story heavy? Steve said that... ? Most movies from the 90's and up aren't story heavy. Dirk - have you seen Welcome to the Dollhouse? Yes he said that, and no I haven't seen Welcome to the Dollhouse. Why do you ask, should I check it out? You said my point. You basically said "there on hundreds of peoples favorite list". I dont know how many people's favorites list consist of Clerks, Tremors, and I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus. And by story heavy, I meant more like The Matrix with that being such a big mainstream film, and Fight Club having such a cult. To put it simple, if something has a big budget and a known cast, you'll jump in and then call it your favorite movie. While NP and I like a lot of not-well-known, underrated films. Laugh and mock the answer...now. Also, Welcome to the Dollhouse is available on DVD from Amazon. Netflix as well, no Dvd Queue. |
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Post by Handsome Devil on Sept 1, 2010 9:22:36 GMT -5
So we have different tastes in movies, big deal.
I don't see why if I have movies on my list that are well known, that somehow they're not as good as a movie that's not well known. Not every big-budget, ensemble cast film is a favorite of mine, that's just an unfair generalization. I could say any Kevin Smith or Corey Haim movie is a favorite of yours, but that's not true is it?
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Post by patface1979 on Sept 1, 2010 9:39:06 GMT -5
My favorite Animated movie's from the 80's are
Wizards
Lord of the Rings
The Hobbit
Return of the King
Fritz the Cat
The Many Lives of Fritz the Cat
Who framed Roger Rabbit
Vampire Hunter D
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Project Ako Battle 2: Side Blue
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Post by nopersonality on Sept 1, 2010 10:10:32 GMT -5
Story heavy? Most movies from the 90's and up aren't story heavy. Dirk - have you seen Welcome to the Dollhouse? No I haven't seen Welcome to the Dollhouse. Why do you ask, should I check it out? Right this very minute! The less I say about it, the better. But you'll agree when you see it that you should have seen it before! I'm putting Fight Club back in my Queue (but Clerks is first now) and you really would do yourself a huge favor if you put Dollhouse at #1 on yours. Trust me on this one. And if you push Ghost World up as well. |
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Post by Handsome Devil on Sept 1, 2010 11:17:21 GMT -5
I'm bumping up Ghost World and adding Dollhouse. I'll let you know what I think about 'em after I watch 'em
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Post by StevePulaski on Sept 1, 2010 16:59:35 GMT -5
Same here NP. Ill add Dollhouse to the Queue. Position #2 right behind Silver Streak.
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Post by nopersonality on Sept 3, 2010 7:10:38 GMT -5
Very good movie, I think you'll be impressed as well. It was, in fact, such a masterpiece that Roseanne forced the show's producers to put the star of the movie into the show and they made her a regular character. After that, she was so successful on Roseanne, Sliders had to have her too. Then, Scream 3 had to have her too. Also, John Waters was so impressed with the movie, he put her co-star (the other major character in the movie) in Pecker.
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